This proposal has been rejected because:

We've discussed this change on Product and we think that this should belong to their own module has this could evolve on having much more particular features for this dynamic. We think that this doesn't abide to the "Single responsibility principle" and we could end with an "initiative/petitions/FOIA" module that's a mix on multiple things.

Initiatives that do not collect signatures

Virgile Deville 15/10/2019 19:09 Rejected

Currently when creating an initiative type the default value for signature type is "Online". The Belgian Federal State parliament for initiative allows for citizens to create an initiative that do not gather signatures. I have 2 ideas of how we could solve this : - Make the default value a blank value, if left like this then this initiative type will not collect signatures, the jauge would be hidden and so on - Instead of a dropdown menu make signature types configuration a checkbox item where the admin can activate one by one online signatures, in person, no signature (cannot check the 2 others when checked

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Virgile Deville

18/10/2019 10:46

Had a little call with them yesterday.
They are using it for petitions for the federal parliament. Petitions in French is essentially a question, the law providing the specs for its implementation allows for a citizen a "right to be heard" when asking its question, this right to be heard is granted upon the collection of 25000 signatures. The citizen is then invited to petition commission at the parliament. This right to be heard is optional. A citizen can submit a petition without wanting to collect signatures, it will be adressed by the parliament either way.

Here is the legistlation piece : https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GsvBgXwy3hZM2LkYV7zQBfqT1DJKk5TRfHN_3EYf4yE/edit

Article 3 states the right to make a petition through an online platform
Article 4 states the right to be heard

Carol Romero 25/10/2019 16:25

Hi, just to keep track of the offline conversation, having seen the regulation, this is much more similar to FOIA than to Initiatives.

In this sense, we have received several requests to develop a module that serves this purpose: to make a request for information and receive an official response, all in a public way.
The reference in this field is the MySociety software, Alaveteli, which is used, among others, by the European Union: https://www.asktheeu.org/en/list/all

I personally believe that there are several cases of use that may need a module of this type. But let's see what feedback the Belgian government gives us before taking a decision.

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