Propose new functionalities for Decidim software
#DecidimRoadmap Designing Decidim together
Latest update: we're test-driving Matrix using Element.io. There's a community with two rooms setup here: https://matrix.to/#/+decidim:matrix.org.
Waiting on response from the association committee to move forward with more rooms and migrate in practice.
I've updated the title of the proposal to reflect where it's currently at.
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(This not a feature proposal - posting it here as it seems to be the best option at this point. It's definitely meta, at least)
So, I propose migrating community communications now done on Telegram and Gitter over to a new Decidim Slack.
I believe this would greatly improve support to users and developers, better enable water cooler conversations and brainstorming, where a lot of good ideas come from, and increase overall governance transparency. It'd strengthen community integration.
Though I like the intention of Gitter and the fact it's now on Matrix, it's still very clunky and it'lll be a long while until it's on par with Slack. The Telegram groups are hard to find (a lot of people posting on Gitter, Meta and Github don't know they exist) and don't allow for separating topics into channels that can be easily browsed.
With Slack we can have channels like 'new-to-decidim' or 'getting-started', 'core', 'deployment', as well as 'product' and 'general' (for announcements, participatory ecosystem news, etc). Also, specific topics like 'e-voting' or 'participatory-budgeting', and even locale or region-specific channels.
We can have automated notification channels tracking Github activity (commits, issues, PRs, etc), and even Metadecidim proposals. Integration for the latter would need to be developed, but it could come handy to Decidim instance communities as well.
It wouldn't need to be persistent (the conversations are meant to be ephemeral and can be thrown away), so it doesn't need to be paid.
For some context, this idea is something I discussed privately with @andres a couple of months ago, and briefly mentioned to @carol as well. We agreed it was better to wait a little bit before starting this discussion until after the holidays, with the association in place and with the election for the coordination committee over.
@carol also said there might be alternative proposals floating around - so perhaps this can start a conversation on the different options and relative benefits.
Rocket.Chat might be one, or even Matrix itself. I've never used them myself and so can't really vouch for them. I know OSP uses Rocket on their daily work, perhaps they might chime in with their experience with it here. I suspect Matrix is hard to use, but I could be wrong. Another option is Discourse, but then we wouldn't have the quick, real-time chatter that Slack offers.
The development of this proposal has finished
Has been reviewed by Decidim Product and complies with the Social Contract
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Available in GitHub via #8466
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Conversation with Wouter Tebbens
@mrcasals: couldn't agree less ;-)
One observation though: the last aspect you mention about rooms: when rooms are public you can search for them, so they're discoverable. And here comes the beauty of the decentralised architecture: you can have a room with multiple "addresses", for example our general meet.coop room is at
#meetcoop:matrix.org
but was first created as an IRC room, with this address:
#freenode_#meetcoop:matrix.org
And if I am not mistaken, you could set up your own server and point a local address of that server to this room. So the rooms "live" between all servers in a way.
Ah, cool, I didn't know they were that discoverable! I saw they were shareable with some specific addres, but I didn't try to discover new rooms, thanks!
I wonder if they're still trackable by search engines, though...
When searching for a room, you can opt to search all public rooms, on all matrix servers.
As room admin you'll need to have this option activated so that the room is indeed discoverable: "Publish this room to the public in matrix.org's room directory?" Try it out for yourself.
I'm not sure about the search engines, we should investigate that part ;-) Feel free to open a room and invite me so we can play and research together: https://matrix.to/#/@wtebbens:matrix.org
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